The BioLogos Foundation

It is designed to state that evolution 'goo-to-you-via-the-zoo' did
happen and if God had any part in it He just set up the conditions so
that molecules would change into (wo)men in millions of years.

From the late 1950's in USA and from 1962 in NSW and probably in all
Australian states all adults now about sixty years and younger have
had that instruction in the school system. Those who imposed evolution
from that time and since do not want to lose their control over the
brains of children as they develop into adults.

From reading part of the Origin of Species quite some time ago I
recall that Charles Darwin did write that all ideas needed to be
checked. He also said that proof for Natural Selection would be found
in the Fossil record.

Evolution from one kind to another kind up the tree of life must have
long ages for that to be accomplished.
But evolution in past ages cannot be tested by repeated scientific
experiments in present-time
because it deals with past events.

But if God could not create by His word, then God is not omnipotent,
omniscient, almighty. So Christians who accept that God worked through
evolution and through long ages of millions of years are denying the
Biblically-given attributes of God.

Everyone under the age of sixty years has been indoctrinated through
the school system to even believe that God had no part at all in the
creation of the Universe and living organisms within it.

www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3040/

www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3001/

Gladys Swager

theo

2009-05-20 03:07:19 UTC

It is designed to state that evolution 'goo-to-you-via-the-zoo' did
happen and if God had any part in it He just set up the conditions so
that molecules would change into (wo)men in millions of years.
From the late 1950's in USA and from 1962 in NSW and probably in all
Australian states all adults now about sixty years and younger have
had that instruction in the school system. Those who imposed evolution
from that time and since do not want to lose their control over the
brains of children as they develop into adults.
From reading part of the Origin of Species quite some time ago I
recall that Charles Darwin did write that all ideas needed to be
checked. He also said that proof for Natural Selection would be found
in the Fossil record.
Evolution from one kind to another kind up the tree of life must have
long ages for that to be accomplished.
But evolution in past ages cannot be tested by repeated scientific
experiments in present-time
because it deals with past events.
But if God could not create by His word, then God is not omnipotent,
omniscient, almighty. So Christians who accept that God worked through
evolution and through long ages of millions of years are denying the
Biblically-given attributes of God.
Everyone under the age of sixty years has been indoctrinated through
the school system to even believe that God had no part at all in the
creation of the Universe and living organisms within it.

Not True Gladys. I went to a private christian school in the mid-
fifties in Victoria and was taught that the earth is very old indeed,
as proved by the evidence of great ages all around for anyone daring
to open their eyes. I was also taught that at some point Godd decided
that this particular couple of "people" were Adam and Eve.

The only proof of a young aged earth is "the bible says so".

Theo

s***@ozemail.com.au

2009-05-20 04:23:12 UTC

Those dates come from the fact that Russia had won the space into race
in 1957 and there were those who argued it was because Russian schools
had been teaching evolution that had given their scientists the
advantage.
But it was only an advantage of about three months before the USA
launched its satellite - watched both of them as they circled the
earth - it was an exciting time, also watched the USA moon landing on
a very cold day in July (?) 1969 as a television set had been
installed by a local electrical store to the school where I was the
Teaching Infants,
for the small number of children who came to school that day -
watching was better in the warmth of one's home for those who had TV
sets then.

From reading part of the Origin of Species quite some time ago I recall that Charles Darwin did write that all ideas needed to be checked. He also said that proof for Natural Selection would be found in the Fossil record.
Evolution from one kind to another kind up the tree of life must have long ages for that to be accomplished.
But evolution in past ages cannot be tested by repeated scientific experiments in present-time because it deals with past events.
But if God could not create by His word, then God is not omnipotent, omniscient, almighty. So Christians who accept that God worked through evolution and through long ages of millions of years are denying the Biblically-given attributes of God.
Everyone under the age of sixty years has been indoctrinated through the school system to even believe that God had no part at all in the creation of the Universe and living organisms within it.

I was posting from my experiences of NSW Science texts I used in my
tutoring programmes - more for an understanding of the language used
and test techniques than for science content.

Yes, some schools did introduce Evolution at earlier times - the
numbers and their names I do not know. Some may have introduced
evolution within 20 - 30 years of the publication of Darwin's Origin
of Species - ie from 1889 or thereabouts. But if the teachers stated
that evolution from one kind to another kind happened and it took
millions of years Charles Darwin had not given them the scientific
proof - so they were just 'jumping-the-gun'.

When I look out on my world in NSW I would not be so brash as to dare
to give it an estimate of age. Creation Scientists (with fully
accredited degrees and doctorates in Science have stated that they
have sent portions of the same geological sample to different
laboratories and have been given different dates.
My readings indicates that a dating can be obtained within a month in
an accelerator. We have been through that before in these postings, as
you would probably recall.

www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3059/

I was also taught that at some point God decided that this particular
couple of "people" were Adam and Eve.
And then God told Moses a lie when God revealed to Him the beginnings
of His creation - or the record on the clay tablets that Moses used,
very carefully kept by the patriarches from Adam through to Joseph was
accounts of lies. I find the overlapping of the ages of the patriarchs
just astonding so that Adam knew Lamech, the father of Noah and
Methuselah's age overlaps all but one of them so that he was able to
keep the record correct. (Genesis 5)

The only proof of a young aged earth is "the bible says so".

The Creation Scientists, mentioned above, say they are finding
evidence to support a young earth and universe. Their studies are not
complete, but can old-agers say that their studies are all accurate
and complete?

www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3040/

www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3003/

Gladys Swager

- Show quoted text -

theo

2009-05-20 05:31:29 UTC

Post by s***@ozemail.com.au
Those dates come from the fact that Russia had won the space into race
in 1957 and there were those who argued it was because Russian schools
had been teaching evolution that had given their scientists the
advantage.
But it was only an advantage of about three months before the USA
launched its satellite - watched both of them as they circled the
earth - it was an exciting time, also watched the USA moon landing on
a very cold day in July (?) 1969 as a television set had been
installed by a local electrical store to the school where I was the
Teaching Infants,
for the small number of children who came to school that day -
watching was better in the warmth of one's home for those who had TV
sets then.

I also watched those same satellites from the school oval. I was in
the USA in 1969 at the time of the moon landing.

When I look out on my world in NSW I would not be so brash as to dare
to give it an estimate of age. Creation Scientists (with fully
accredited degrees and doctorates in Science have stated that they
have sent portions of the same geological sample to different
laboratories and have been given different dates.

Show me the doctorates and degrees. Show me where you can get a degree
in Creation Science. A doctorate in bible study doesn't make you a
scientist Gladys.

Post by s***@ozemail.com.au
I was also taught that at some point God decided that this particular
couple of "people" were Adam and Eve.
And then God told Moses a lie when God revealed to Him the beginnings
of His creation - or the record on the clay tablets that Moses used,
very carefully kept by the patriarches from Adam through to Joseph was
accounts of lies. I find the overlapping of the ages of the patriarchs
just astonding so that Adam knew Lamech, the father of Noah and
Methuselah's age overlaps all but one of them so that he was able to
keep the record correct. (Genesis 5)

It was definately a lie if you suggest that Adam recorded events and
dates on clay tablets.

The only proof of a young aged earth is "the bible says so".

Of course not. They do say that given the evidence we have, this is
the most likely theory. You, OTOH insist on speakinng to every rpimate
to discuss their parents. One parent missing and it is all a lie to
you. Your religious belief have made you blind Gladys.

Theo

s***@ozemail.com.au

2009-05-20 08:45:01 UTC

Those dates come from the fact that Russia had won the space into race in 1957 and there were those who argued it was because Russian schools had been teaching evolution that had given their scientists the advantage.
But it was only an advantage of about three months before the USA launched its satellite - watched both of them as they circled the earth - it was an exciting time, also watched the USA moon landing on a very cold day in July (?) 1969 as a television set had been installed by a local electrical store to the school where I was the teaching Infants,
for the small number of children who came to school that day - watching was better in the warmth of one's home for those who had TV sets then.

I also watched those same satellites from the school oval. I was in the USA in 1969 at the time of the moon landing.

When I look out on my world in NSW I would not be so brash as to dare to give it an estimate of age. Creation Scientists (with fully accredited degrees and doctorates in Science have stated that they have sent portions of the same geological sample to different laboratories and have been given different dates.

Show me the doctorates and degrees. Show me where you can get a degree in Creation Science. A doctorate in bible study doesn't make you a scientist Gladys.

No doctorates in Creation Science, that I am aware of. But from
degrees and doctorates in accredited universities there are scientists
who are saying the evidence does not always match what they were
taught.
A University degree/doctorate does not mean the holder knows everyting
or that what the holder knows is all truth and nothing but the truth.

www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/4991/

I was also taught that at some point God decided that this particular couple of "people" were Adam and Eve.

But on what authority. Tertiary studies must be worked through again
and again to determine if correct, need correcting or whether some
should be completely discarded.

And then God told Moses a lie when God revealed to Him the beginnings of His creation - or the record on the clay tablets that Moses used, very carefully kept by the patriarches from Adam through to Joseph was accounts of lies. I find the overlapping of the ages of the patriarchs just astonding so that Adam knew Lamech, the father of Noah and Methuselah's age overlaps all but one of them so that he was able to
keep the record correct. (Genesis 5)

It was definately a lie if you suggest that Adam recorded events and dates on clay tablets.

I was surmising. The Gilgamesh Epic is on clay tablets, but I am not
sure of their dating.

creation.com

and enter Gilgamensh epic in Search will give 37 articles if you are
interested to follow through.

The only proof of a young aged earth is "the bible says so".

Of course not. They do say that given the evidence we have, this is the most likely theory. You, OTOH insist on speakinng to every primate to discuss their parents. One parent missing and it is all a lie to you. Your religious belief have made you blind Gladys.

I am not sure what you mean by the above statements.
I think I am more wide-eyed than many who just say 'evolution and
millions of years' because they learnt that from school studies or the
media.
I didn't realise what I was taking myself into nearly seven years ago
when I began posting a.r.c. -
an interesting journey, but confusing on occasions.

Gladys Swager

Thommadura

2009-05-20 11:32:34 UTC

Those dates come from the fact that Russia had won the space into race in 1957 and there were those who argued it was because Russian schools had been teaching evolution that had given their scientists the advantage.
But it was only an advantage of about three months before the USA launched its satellite - watched both of them as they circled the earth - it was an exciting time, also watched the USA moon landing on a very cold day in July (?) 1969 as a television set had been installed by a local electrical store to the school where I was the teaching Infants,
for the small number of children who came to school that day - watching was better in the warmth of one's home for those who had TV sets then.

I also watched those same satellites from the school oval. I was in the USA in 1969 at the time of the moon landing.

When I look out on my world in NSW I would not be so brash as to dare to give it an estimate of age. Creation Scientists (with fully accredited degrees and doctorates in Science have stated that they have sent portions of the same geological sample to different laboratories and have been given different dates.

Show me the doctorates and degrees. Show me where you can get a degree in Creation Science. A doctorate in bible study doesn't make you a scientist Gladys.

I was also taught that at some point God decided that this particular couple of "people" were Adam and Eve.

But on what authority. Tertiary studies must be worked through again
and again to determine if correct, need correcting or whether some
should be completely discarded.

And WHO decides what is a Tertiary study?

The bible would be one.

Bible's(Which are essentially encyclopedias of beleif) - by definition -
are compilations of "other" works - nothing in the bible is original to
the bible. All bibles - also by definition - rest on the validity and
provability of the ORIGINAL source material.

WE have NONE to work through again and again. There is NOT way to
determine if ANYTHING has any validity. Obviously - some things need
correcting - the story of genesis is particularly faulty - yet no one
corrects it.

Ken Smith

2009-05-26 00:08:50 UTC

[deletions]

Post by theo

It was definately a lie if you suggest that Adam recorded events and date=

s on clay tablets.
I was surmising. The Gilgamesh Epic is on clay tablets, but I am not
sure of their dating.
creation.com
and enter Gilgamensh epic in Search will give 37 articles if you are
interested to follow through.

Gladys, when will you learn that searching a creationist site for
information is unlikely to yield the truth.
How about searching for "Gilgamesh epic" using Google, tellig us how
many items turn up, and how many of them you have read?
I'll let you do it, because I've read only a few dozen of the many
thousands of articles on Gilgamesh which have been published.

Post by theo

Post by theo
The only proof of a young aged earth is "the bible says so".

The Creation Scientists, mentioned above, say they are finding evidence=

to support a young earth and universe. Their studies are not complete, but=
can old-agers say that their studies are all accurate and complete?

Of course not. They do say that given the evidence we have, this is the m=

ost likely theory. You, OTOH insist on speakinng to every primate to discus=
s their parents. One parent missing and it is all a lie to you. Your religi=
ous belief have made you blind Gladys.
I am not sure what you mean by the above statements.
I think I am more wide-eyed than many who just say 'evolution and
millions of years' because they learnt that from school studies or the
media.
I didn't realise what I was taking myself into nearly seven years ago
when I began posting a.r.c. -
an interesting journey, but confusing on occasions.

If you are going to get involved in discussions about scientific
matters, Gladys, you should be prepared to acquire some scientific
knowledge, gained by reading a vast number of scientific articles in
research journals, and avoid creationist stuff, for a start.

Post by theo
Gladys Swager

Salaam
Ken Smith

--
Dr Ken Smith - Christian, husband, unpaid mathematician, skeptic, ...
`In its encounter with Nature, science invariably elicits a sense of
reverence and awe. ... The notion that science and spirituality are
somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both.' Carl Sagan

Fred Thomas

2009-05-20 10:22:20 UTC

By 1966, 93 percent of the U.S. population owned TV's (Bonior, Champlin, Kolly,
1984, p.18). And July's weather was not abnormally cold

I was posting from my experiences of NSW Science texts I used in my
tutoring programmes - more for an understanding of the language used
and test techniques than for science content.
Yes, some schools did introduce Evolution at earlier times - the
numbers and their names I do not know. Some may have introduced
evolution within 20 - 30 years of the publication of Darwin's Origin
of Species - ie from 1889 or thereabouts. But if the teachers stated
that evolution from one kind to another kind happened and it took
millions of years Charles Darwin had not given them the scientific
proof - so they were just 'jumping-the-gun'.
When I look out on my world in NSW I would not be so brash as to dare
to give it an estimate of age. Creation Scientists (with fully
accredited degrees and doctorates in Science have stated that they
have sent portions of the same geological sample to different
laboratories and have been given different dates.
My readings indicates that a dating can be obtained within a month in
an accelerator. We have been through that before in these postings, as
you would probably recall.
www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3059/
I was also taught that at some point God decided that this particular
couple of "people" were Adam and Eve.
And then God told Moses a lie when God revealed to Him the beginnings
of His creation - or the record on the clay tablets that Moses used,
very carefully kept by the patriarches from Adam through to Joseph was
accounts of lies. I find the overlapping of the ages of the patriarchs
just astonding so that Adam knew Lamech, the father of Noah and
Methuselah's age overlaps all but one of them so that he was able to
keep the record correct. (Genesis 5)

The only proof of a young aged earth is "the bible says so".

The Creation Scientists, mentioned above, say they are finding
evidence to support a young earth and universe. Their studies are not
complete, but can old-agers say that their studies are all accurate
and complete?
www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3040/
www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3003/
Gladys Swager

- Show quoted text -

theo

2009-05-20 23:59:22 UTC

Post by s***@ozemail.com.au
But it was only an advantage of about three months before the USA
launched its satellite - watched both of them as they circled the
earth - it was an exciting time, also watched the USA moon landing on
a very cold day in July (?) 1969 as a television set had been
installed by a local electrical store to the school where I was the
Teaching Infants,
for the small number of children who came to school that day -
watching was better in the warmth of one's home for those who had TV
sets then.

By 1966, 93 percent of the U.S. population owned TV's (Bonior, Champlin, Kolly,
1984, p.18). And July's weather was not abnormally cold

Fred, Gladys and I are both posting from aus.religion.christian,
that's aus for Australia, not Austin. July is the middle of winter and
can be quite chilly outdoors, and the children are in school. Our end
of school year is at the end of the calendar year, December, going
back to school at the end of January. TV only came to Australia in
1956 and not to Western Australia, where I live, until 1958. In 1969
many people did not yet have TV. As it happens, I was in Dayton Ohio
at the time of the moon landing, returning to Australia in March 1970.
I bought my first, B&W, TV in 1971.

Theo

Ken Smith

2009-05-26 00:10:56 UTC

By 1966, 93 percent of the U.S. population owned TV's (Bonior, Champlin, Kolly,
1984, p.18). And July's weather was not abnormally cold

Fred, you've forgotten that Gladys lives in the Southern hemisphere.

[rest deleted]

Salaam
Ken Smith

--
Dr Ken Smith - Christian, husband, unpaid mathematician, skeptic, ...
`In its encounter with Nature, science invariably elicits a sense of
reverence and awe. ... The notion that science and spirituality are
somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both.' Carl Sagan

Pastor Dave

2009-05-20 13:45:39 UTC

You're right. :)

--

Pastor Dave

Christians, keep the faith -- but not from others!

Fred Thomas

2009-05-20 20:09:48 UTC

This was July, what were the kids doing in school?

I was posting from my experiences of NSW Science texts I used in my
tutoring programmes - more for an understanding of the language used
and test techniques than for science content.
Yes, some schools did introduce Evolution at earlier times - the
numbers and their names I do not know. Some may have introduced
evolution within 20 - 30 years of the publication of Darwin's Origin
of Species - ie from 1889 or thereabouts. But if the teachers stated
that evolution from one kind to another kind happened and it took
millions of years Charles Darwin had not given them the scientific
proof - so they were just 'jumping-the-gun'.
When I look out on my world in NSW I would not be so brash as to dare
to give it an estimate of age. Creation Scientists (with fully
accredited degrees and doctorates in Science have stated that they
have sent portions of the same geological sample to different
laboratories and have been given different dates.
My readings indicates that a dating can be obtained within a month in
an accelerator. We have been through that before in these postings, as
you would probably recall.
www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3059/
I was also taught that at some point God decided that this particular
couple of "people" were Adam and Eve.
And then God told Moses a lie when God revealed to Him the beginnings
of His creation - or the record on the clay tablets that Moses used,
very carefully kept by the patriarches from Adam through to Joseph was
accounts of lies. I find the overlapping of the ages of the patriarchs
just astonding so that Adam knew Lamech, the father of Noah and
Methuselah's age overlaps all but one of them so that he was able to
keep the record correct. (Genesis 5)

The only proof of a young aged earth is "the bible says so".

The Creation Scientists, mentioned above, say they are finding
evidence to support a young earth and universe. Their studies are not
complete, but can old-agers say that their studies are all accurate
and complete?
www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3040/
www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3003/
Gladys Swager

- Show quoted text -

s***@ozemail.com.au

2009-05-20 22:54:19 UTC

On May 20, 8:12 am, **Rowland Croucher** wrote:> (From a friend): Website Review - The BioLogos Foundation

Post by **Rowland Croucher**
http://biologos.org
If you are one of those believers with a fascination for science and how God put the universe together, but at the same time you are sick of the constant bickering between Christians and atheists, this website provides welcome relief.

Those dates come from the fact that Russia had won the space into race in 1957 and there were those who argued it was because Russian schools had been teaching evolution that had given their scientists the advantage.
But it was only an advantage of about three months before the USA launched its satellite - watched both of them as they circled the earth - it was an exciting time, also watched the USA moon landing on a very cold day in July (?) 1969 as a television set had been installed by a local electrical store to the school where I was the Teaching Infants,
for the small number of children who came to school that day - watching was better in the warmth of one's home for those who had TV sets then.

This was July, what were the kids doing in school?

There were three terms to the school year at that time. I can't recall
when the four-term year was introduced in NSW schools. Holidays now
come end December/January, April, July and October

I was posting from my experiences of NSW Science texts I used in my tutoring programmes - more for an understanding of the language used and test techniques than for science content.
Yes, some schools did introduce Evolution at earlier times - the numbers and their names I do not know. Some may have introduced evolution within 20 - 30 years of the publication of Darwin's Origin of Species - ie from 1889 or thereabouts. But if the teachers stated that evolution from one kind to another kind happened and it took millions of years Charles Darwin had not given them the scientific proof - so they were just 'jumping-the-gun'.
When I look out on my world in NSW I would not be so brash as to dare to give it an estimate of age. Creation Scientists (with fully accredited degrees and doctorates in Science have stated that they have sent portions of the same geological sample to different laboratories and have been given different dates.
My readings indicates that a dating can be obtained within a month in an accelerator. We have been through that before in these postings, as you would probably recall.
www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3059/
I was also taught that at some point God decided that this particular couple of "people" were Adam and Eve.
And then God told Moses a lie when God revealed to Him the beginnings of His creation - or the record on the clay tablets that Moses used, very carefully kept by the patriarches from Adam through to Joseph was accounts of lies. I find the overlapping of the ages of the patriarchs just astonding so that Adam knew Lamech, the father of Noah and Methuselah's age overlaps all but one of them so that he was able to
keep the record correct. (Genesis 5)

The only proof of a young aged earth is "the bible says so".

The Creation Scientists, mentioned above, say they are finding evidence to support a young earth and universe. Their studies are not complete, but can old-agers say that their studies are all accurate and complete?
www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3040/
www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3003/
Gladys Swager

Terry Cross

2009-05-21 00:35:32 UTC

On May 20, 8:12 am, **Rowland Croucher** wrote:> (From a friend): Website Review - The BioLogos Foundation

Those dates come from the fact that Russia had won the space into race in 1957 and there were those who argued it was because Russian schools had been teaching evolution that had given their scientists the advantage.
But it was only an advantage of about three months before the USA launched its satellite - watched both of them as they circled the earth - it was an exciting time, also watched the USA moon landing on a very cold day in July (?) 1969 as a television set had been installed by a local electrical store to the school where I was the Teaching Infants,
for the small number of children who came to school that day - watching was better in the warmth of one's home for those who had TV sets then.

This was July, what were the kids doing in school?

There were three terms to the school year at that time. I can't recall
when the four-term year was introduced in NSW schools. Holidays now
come end December/January, April, July and October

Fred lives on a flat planet with only one hemisphere. This tragic
limitation leads Fred to many erroneous conclusions when conversing
with people on Planet Earth.

TCross

Barry

2009-05-21 03:15:59 UTC

Post by Terry Cross
Fred lives on a flat planet with only one hemisphere. This tragic
limitation leads Fred to many erroneous conclusions when conversing
with people on Planet Earth.

I thought you were the Christian.

Post by Terry Cross
TCross

Thommadura

2009-05-21 11:21:20 UTC

Post by Barry

Post by Terry Cross
Fred lives on a flat planet with only one hemisphere. This tragic
limitation leads Fred to many erroneous conclusions when conversing
with people on Planet Earth.

I thought you were the Christian.

Post by Terry Cross
TCross

Terry is not a "christian" as such!

He - like Guardian Snow, and Pastor Frank - and Monkfish - and Andrew
Chung - are not part of any traditional christian church belief.]

Instead - they have made up their own religions - and defined their own
gods = based on what they accept from christianity when it suits them -
and often contradicting themselves in their posts over time.

Snowie ignores paul - Frank ignores the Old Testament - etc - so what
they have established is that their religion and their gods are HUMAN
made by them personally - instead of by other humans before them.

IF there actually were real gods - they would not have that chance - the
god would establish its own definition and its own church.

So - by establishing their own religion themselves - they also establish
that it is false -= and can be dismissed completely.

Barry OGrady

2009-05-22 11:22:58 UTC

Post by Thommadura

Post by Barry

Post by Terry Cross
Fred lives on a flat planet with only one hemisphere. This tragic
limitation leads Fred to many erroneous conclusions when conversing
with people on Planet Earth.

I thought you were the Christian.

Post by Terry Cross
TCross

I am posting from aus.religion.christian. I think all the Christians there
are smorgasbord Christians. If anyone tries to be a real Christian they
are blasted as fundamentalist.

Post by Thommadura
IF there actually were real gods - they would not have that chance - the
god would establish its own definition and its own church.
So - by establishing their own religion themselves - they also establish
that it is false -= and can be dismissed completely.

That fact doesn't register with them.
Thanks.

Barry
=====
Home page
http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og

Thommadura

2009-05-21 11:15:14 UTC

Post by Terry Cross

On May 20, 8:12 am, **Rowland Croucher** wrote:> (From a friend): Website Review - The BioLogos Foundation

Those dates come from the fact that Russia had won the space into race in 1957 and there were those who argued it was because Russian schools had been teaching evolution that had given their scientists the advantage.
But it was only an advantage of about three months before the USA launched its satellite - watched both of them as they circled the earth - it was an exciting time, also watched the USA moon landing on a very cold day in July (?) 1969 as a television set had been installed by a local electrical store to the school where I was the Teaching Infants,
for the small number of children who came to school that day - watching was better in the warmth of one's home for those who had TV sets then.

This was July, what were the kids doing in school?

There were three terms to the school year at that time. I can't recall
when the four-term year was introduced in NSW schools. Holidays now
come end December/January, April, July and October

Fred lives on a flat planet with only one hemisphere. This tragic
limitation leads Fred to many erroneous conclusions when conversing
with people on Planet Earth.
TCross

Nonsense

It is those bible thumping theists who believe in that flat planet whose
four corners can be seen from high places - LIKE YOU.

Fred certainly does not accept that balderdash.

Ken Smith

2009-05-26 00:15:59 UTC

I usually remove alt.* newsgroups, but I've left them in for this
reply.

This was July, what were the kids doing in school?

Southern hemisphere, Fred.
I hope you're not one of those who thinks anything outside USA isn't
worth considering.

We have our summer holidays in December-January, so we can celebrate
Christmas with all our families/parents/children/...

[rest deleted]

Salaam
Ken Smith

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`In its encounter with Nature, science invariably elicits a sense of
reverence and awe. ... The notion that science and spirituality are
somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both.' Carl Sagan

Pastor Dave

2009-05-20 13:45:03 UTC

Post by s***@ozemail.com.au
From reading part of the Origin of Species quite some time ago I
recall that Charles Darwin did write that all ideas needed to be
checked. He also said that proof for Natural Selection would be found
in the Fossil record.

And it never was.

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Pastor Dave

Never give the devil a ride. He will always want to drive.

Barry OGrady

2009-05-22 11:23:11 UTC

Post by Pastor Dave

And it never was.

Yet all the discoveries support evolution.
Many Christians feel compelled by the evidence to incorporate evolution
into their mythology.

Post by Pastor Dave
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Pastor Dave
Never give the devil a ride. He will always want to drive.

We see the mess we are in by letting God drive.
The devil would do a far better job.

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Ken Smith

2009-05-25 23:58:56 UTC

Post by **Rowland Croucher**
Website Review - The BioLogos Foundation
http://biologos.org
If you are one of those believers with a fascination for science and how =

God put the universe together, but at the same time you are sick of the con=
stant bickering between Christians and atheists, this website provides welc=
ome relief.
It is designed to state that evolution 'goo-to-you-via-the-zoo' did
happen and if God had any part in it He just set up the conditions so
that molecules would change into (wo)men in millions of years.
From the late 1950's in USA and from 1962 in NSW and probably in all
Australian states all adults now about sixty years and younger have
had that instruction in the school system. Those who imposed evolution
from that time and since do not want to lose their control over the
brains of children as they develop into adults.
From reading part of the Origin of Species quite some time ago I

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

recall that Charles Darwin did write that all ideas needed to be
checked. He also said that proof for Natural Selection would be found
in the Fossil record.

Can I suggest, Gladys, that you should read *all* of "The Origin of
Species" ? It won't take very long.
In particular, read the last paragraph, preferably in the sixth
edition, which gives Darwin's final ideas.
Omitting some words, the last sentence reads "There is a grandeur in
this view of life ... having been breathed by the Creator into a few
forms or into one ... and that from so humble a beginning ... have
been, and are being evolved."

I'll dig out my copy and post the complete sentence.

[rest deleted]

Gladys Swager

Pastor Dave

2009-05-20 13:44:03 UTC

On Wed, 20 May 2009 08:12:51 +1000, **Rowland Croucher**

He has already sided with the atheists by this point.

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Pastor Dave

A clear conscience makes a soft pillow.

Ken Smith

2009-05-25 23:51:06 UTC